Ch pro throttle vs twcs. … CH pro throttle is a good option.

Ch pro throttle vs twcs The stick and/or throttle will do the job well enough for you to enjoy the game for a season but plan on upgrading if you find yourself spending serious time with the game (or another game that uses the stick/throttle for that matter) The plasticky parts do fine with moderate to heavy use but the Virpil ACE, Slaw Vipers and MFG Crosswinds are the high end options. However, if I buy them, I will probably use them permanently, so until TECS is released, I will stick with TWCS, which is cheap and has sufficient functionality. The stick has its own very basic throttle, so a setup using this throttle, the stick and a keyboard, allows a new pilot to learn how to fly with the best stick, while they save money for a throttle. I actually run both a TWCS and a Gladiator Omni-throttle*. started with a logitech 3d pro last week (not going to count the shitty logitech stick i had in the mid2000's So I plan on buying the Gladiator NXT EVO in the coming days as my first HOTAS setup. 00 Can use the VKB GNX THQ three lever quadrant as A quality throttle quadrant can dramatically enhance your flight sim experience through precise power control, authentic aircraft-specific features, and expanded cockpit When I set up CH Pro stick, XP12 (and XP11) in Settings > Joystick > Calibrate, I see a nice picture, etc. Reply reply It honestly feels like a throttle that would cost two or three times the amount. TL;DR: Would you get a TWCS for $130 or a barely used X52 Pro (full set, not just throttle) for $140 ? Such a letdown compared to the CH Fighterstick. Throttle is very good. Adding a CH Pro Throttle to a 3D Pro joystick makes the best possible combination for a HOTAS for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, by far. A. I so badly wanted to like this. Only thing it has going for it is it comes with a throttle. Having bought a new PC for gaming recently with Win 11 already installed, I'm using my rather old CH Products USB Fighterstick, USB Pro Throttle and USB Pro Pedals. So, after having used both. It's actually better with a bit of post purchase Between €/$ 170,- and $/€ 250,- there is a throttle void. Im fine using the included throttle wheel on the NXT but at somepoint down the line I would like to updrage to a standalone throttle. 16000 is a pretty prolific entry option, but the stick is ass in comparison to the throttle, so you end up with a lot of people (myself included) running the TWCS and a better stick without feeling the need to For standalone throttles there aren't many options. Also +1 for getting some replacement grease for it. TWCS is another good throttle option but requires a $30 modification to be usable (can be done cheaper if Going back to the WW throttle vs Virpil, there are three things that bug me about the WW, and it’s the strange green LED color and the occasional sailplane, and my X52 Pro throttle works great for the later. For me, the former pairing is better than the second. I already ordered the CH fighter stick but not sure what throttle is better and I currently don't own rudder pedals at moment. Virpil Software. 00:03 - Intro00:20 - Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Some pots seem to be able to go forever without going wrong, while others (prolly cheaper ones) will freak out on you rather quickly and will require servicing/replacing. Be prepared to shell out some $$$ for an external powered USB hub though. Upgrade your TWCS today! Hey guys, trying to get my joystick to have a zoom slider on it. The throttle has everything you need: three buttons, three 4-way hats, one 8-way hat and an analogue stick. Ive seen a lot of people recommending the NXT and TWCS as a good combo but I also like the look of the VKB throttle quadrant. I use the button up top for Discord push-to-talk, as I fly with a squad and often have background noise happening I used a TWCS with nyogel for a while and it feels similar- it doesn't stick, it just dampens my movements. Between the prices of both, you also have the Winwing Orion. Have no experience with vpc and vkb Quick review and thoughts on the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Thrustmaster's TWCS Throttle and TCA Airbus Sidestick. Choose according to your budget. TWCS Throttle Upgrade Suggestions . Was able to pick up the CH Throttle for a discount on Cybermonday. Another option that you may want to look into is a CH Pro Throttle. I like the twist. Having detents, either via a slotted gate, So I will be getting the twcs throttle in combination with the vkb gladiator premium and I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with the twcs throttle not allowing for small precise movements instead jerking slightly and I have seen fixes for it but I'd suggest the CH Pro Throttle as a good alternative around the same price Can pair with CH PRO Throttle or TWCS and use their mini-stick, rocker pads for rudder control, but then VKB NXT standard ~$130,0o is a better option because has twist and will cost less than stick+throttle. Now I am pairing Virpil throttle w VBK F14 stick. It's just generally considered an inferior product to the TWCS. If you are extremely lucky, for a little more than $200 USD you can get a full CH set: Fighterstick + CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedals. The Warthog is in my point of view €150 of For a HOTAS setup (joystick and throttle) two mounts are needed. It's actually better with a bit of post purchase For $40. I've been using mine for 7 years and it's great. Both should be around $150 or less brand new. It's simpler and doesn't really need lubrication, but lubrication can help, and it's If you buy an VKB NXT EVO, the more affordable standalone throttle is Thrustmaster TWCS throttle or CH PRO Throttle (a vintage model), that will cost around ~$130. I don't have freakishly small hands or fingers, but there is no Looking buy new throttle to go with the VKB evo NXT and I was fixed on the CH pro throttle or TWC for around £100 or less with the intention of upgrading later. The raw data consists of 255 points and in some areas it'll jitter 1 point off to back on. The CH is a more simple design. The TWCS throttle is no worse than the X56. It has a good range of buttons and hat switches, You can look for a used TWCS or CH Pro Throttle (I prefer the latter) on eBay and probably stay around 200 total. Still rocking the TWCS throttle at the minute - a common issue with it is the mini stick going - mine has but I just use my gladiator mini stick now to replace it. If you can find TM 16000 + TWCS that’d be the best way to start with both stick and throttle (but could end up a more expensive path than going straight for the NXT). 58 CAD. The difference is that the Pro has extra hats where the regular throttle has buttons. Pros: The complete HOTAS set is great for starting out on a budget! Logitech G Flight Throttle Quadrant ($59. Of course there's much better options out there, but few approach the same price. 99) Mid-range flight sim throttles ($250 - $800) Posted by u/WurminatorZA - 4 votes and 7 comments There's also the CH Pro Throttle, or an X56/X52 separate on eBay, which will be rare. They sell a combo (throttle, stick). In between the TWCS, the old CH Pro Throttle and the Warthog, there is only new VKB NXT WWII Throttle, which is a combo pack of several NXT modules. Tried looking around for CH throttle, doesn't seem like its widely available all around Europe, and the few retailers that have it, sell it at ~150-200€. CH you need stick + throttle + pedal (their sticks has no twist) ~$350 Gladiator (contactless twist), paired with Thrustsmaster TWCS throttle, better functionality than CH PRO throttle. Hmmmmaybe the EVO, with its ability to lock the X axis axis, remove the springs have the dry clutch on the y axis tightened and have the omnithrottle extension on it might be a decent throttle. Again, your mileage may vary, and the units are at least more reliable with better customisation options. Dedicated throttles are in kind of a weird spot right now where there's the cheap stuff (Thrustmaster TWCS and CH Pro Throttle), and then the top shelf stuff like the Virpil T-50CM3 and Winwing Orion or Super Taurus. Turns out most people relube the stock throttleunit with Nyogel 767A i'm brand new to using hotas. You can calibrate it through Windows and use Joystick Gremlin to do any fancy stuff with it. I currently run a full CH set up: the pro throttle. Its been a while since I used the TWCS so I can't remember if its the same but it feels good. Having had the older Saitek version of the X52 normal previously, the TWCS is a better throttle in pretty much all aspects, except maybe cool looks. I have just spent a couple of days test diving the Warthog HOTAS and I honestly think the CH Pro Throttle feels better in E D - the Warthog throttle is just massive, the switches need to be thrown twice to complete something e. The CH pro throttle has no buttons on the base of the unit, the warthog does. At that price I wouldn't even be asking, but after shipping and taxes it's $130 here. For an extra $10 I can get the used X52 Pro set. In my opinion the new Thrustmaster TWCS is better than then CH Throttle. 36 votes, 14 comments. The adjustable dampeners are super easy to use. There's space to add extra buttons on the base, the Bodnar's A2D is, I think, 12 bit, so you get the modern precision (albeit with the limitations of a pot rather than a contactless sensor) and the Pro Throttle is a well loved design for a reason. 99) Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant Boeing Edition ($149. Then in SC you can assign one to the Throttle Forward binding, and the other to the Throttle Back binding. T16000m is very accurate due to its hall sensors. Ch stuff doesn't look fancy, has sort of an old school industrial plastic vibe. . They can be bought new for about $130 each (when in stock). ~$90+80 = 170 + SCG grip upgrade ($120-140) = $290/310. I now use the Virpil throttle and a VKB Gladiator stick. Going from Hall sensor to a low grade Pot was definitely an adjustment. They are still like new in the boxes. The most common recommended one is the TM TWCS throttle (with the almost mandatory out of the box upgrade: CoreHawk3D's Impulse Slider mod Another possibility is the CH Products Pro Throttle. My current setup includes the Honeycomb Alpha Flight Yoke, the Logitech Throttle Quadrant, the VKB Gladiator K Premium, and the Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle. I managed to pick up my TWCS for £30 from FB marketplace. That does not happen when I select Device > TWCS throttle. Reply reply Top 1% Rank by size . Edit: I recommend looking into Joystick Gremlin. CH Gear is almost legendary for its reliability, and as long as they work they're one piece of HOTAS gear that I'd recommend buy used. They are also releasing add-ons such as throttles and button boxes that should be in the $50 range. 105K subscribers in the hoggit community. Currently, I've got a CH setup (Fighterstick / Pro Throttle / Pro Pedals) that I've had since 2008, but I'm noticing a few things. From what I read this is normal, however in DCS this makes an incredibly jarring shaking affect. My ancient CH Pro Pedals from the mid 90s have never been opened and still work great while my (~2015) CH Pro Throttle's pot started to spike/jitter after a few months of use. The CH pro throttle has just 3 input types, button, hat/pov, and mini analog stick, the warthog also has rotary controls and clicky switches. Reply reply I use a vkb gladiator and a TWCS throttle no issues at all, other than being skint and no STECS in Europe yet. Right now I'm torn between a X56/X55 throttle, a CH pro throttle or a TWCS one. On one the throttle is on an arc and the other the throttle is on a rail. Apart from much more expensive units such as Virpil or perhaps the Warthog throttle (if you can find it sold stand-alone), this puts in competition with basically only the Thrustmaster TWCS and the CH Pro Throttle; in this sector, it is the only throttle with a rocker axis rather than a linear slider. It feels like I'm pushing through a grease but its not jittery or sticky. Reply I have the TWCS Throttle. Dreaming of getting TECS someday. All bindings based on Chucks Guide description of the original F/A-18C HOTAS. Reply You'd likely be happy either way. It is more geared towards WWII aircraft, like its name suggests, up to late ‘60s 3rd gen. Doesn’t return to center after short amount of time. It also has three buttons on the base, a throttle and two encoders. , since it lacks inputs on the grip. S plynovým pedálem Throttle od výrobce Thrustmaster rozšíříte svůj kokpit o další ovladač, který vás posune blíže k oblakům. The Control Manager is compatible with Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, XP 64bit Edition, Windows Vista (all editions), The only standalone alternative is the CH Pro throttle which is pretty good but can't always be bought and is more expensive than the TWCS. CH Throttle Pro. 99) CH Products Throttle Quadrant ($199. Either should be $150 or less brand new. You could get a CH pro throttle maybe that’ll feel a little better but I don’t think it would be much different than getting the twcs slider mod. For throttles, try and find a deal on a CH Pro or TWCS. I've used TWCS, CH, Saitek X52 pro. r/hotas. It's similar to the F/A-18's throttle, except it's not a twin throttle. 99) - Free Next Day delivery currently avaialable. There is also the Thrustmaster Warthog throttle which is overpriced in my opinion, better to get the Virpil or wait for VKB's throttle if you are going to spend that much. Reply reply i prefer personally even the twcs because of it's more compact design, i don't have even to stretch my fingers to reach any button. Good grease fixes this. The CH Pro Throttle is about the only thing in the TWCS price range. It may require the scripting side. The old Saitek X36 and X45 throttles also had a yaw rudder axis, but those have been out of production for decades. I think Logitech Extreme 3d pro is better and I think it is also cheaper. It is compatible with PC via USB in Windows 10, 8, 7 and Vista (32-bit and 64-bit). 99) CH Products Pro Throttle ($129. I guess the one difference would be the TECS is an arc design vs Twcs linear type. I'm saving up for a CM3, In its current guise the NXT EVO is already a viable upgrade for CH Pro Throttle users for both space and flight sims at the same time. I haven't been fully happy with how they work in Il2. Using both CH software and TWCS has served me well and with the slider upgrades that will cost that extra $30, it's a very flexible throttle with more life. Available here: And I have a CH Pro Pedals and a Throttle Quadrant to complete the set up. CH Pro Throttle and t16000m. I installed the CH Control Manager but it would not recognise more than one device for calibration. If you have the T16000M/TWCS throttle I'd say greasing it is almost essential it really does provide that much of a benefit and improvement. To my knowledge the TWCS is Tried Nyogel ($15) on my TWCS first. The CH Pro Pedals offers realistic rudder control for both flight simulators and driving games. I bought a second hand CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle for $128 US. Color: Joystick/Throttle Clear: Joystick / HOTAS Rail Mount quantity CH Products Combat-/Fighterstick & Pro Throttle: Virtual Fly Throttle TQ6+/Neo: Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant: VKB Black Mamba: Logitech G940: VKB Gladiator/NXT/EVO: Logitech/Saitek X52/Pro: Thrustmaster TWCS: Dimensions. On the budget end, there's the CH Pro Pedals, Logitech Pro Flight pedals, and Thrustmaster TFRP. After that consider some rudder pedals (despite the lack of toe brakes I love my VKB T Rudders). Reply reply More replies More replies. You don't need to change your grip between full-throttle and full-reverse positions for using buttons and hat switches, rotary is more like real planes. I'd personally stick with the TWCS throttle, nyogel the rails if needed, and keep saving for the Orion 2, a CM3 or wait for TECS. Welcome to /r/hoggit, a noob-friendly community for fans of high-fidelity combat flight simulation. Right now the only two standalone throttles I'd call "budget" are the CH Pro Throttle and Thrustmaster TWCS. Specifications. I tend to have zero issues with VKB software vs. I've owned both and honestly I think they're both decent choices. Last one is rotary. Reply reply Conversely, the TWCS throttle has more inputs on its grip vs the X52 (Pro) throttle (26 vs 21), but it has a less smooth throttle action out of the box. Tried Nyogel ($15) on my TWCS first. CH Control Manager is preferable for calibration because it does some other magic to correct for certain errors in the potentiometres (and I also think it's among the best HOTAS control software ever designed). the x5x throttles are on an arc vs the TWCS, I have a CH Pro Throttle. Ofc the winwing is a replica of the My vote is for the T. I'm leaning most towards a X56 throttle because I love the look and design of the X56/X55 throttles, the sheer amount of buttons (and switches!), and the apparent stiffness of the slide axis. I have an NXT paired with a CH pro throttle until the VKB TECS comes out. The CH Pro Throttle still has some dedicated fans, and despite the fact it was designed something like 20 years ago, they still manufacture it and sell it as new. 99) Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle ($129. Easy to install and more affordable than other mods on the market. The throttle works fine without CH's software. MS Word F/A-18C template for VKB NXT STD and Thrustmaster TWCS. There are pros and cons for both TM and CH. The main doubts I have right now come from the TWCS throttle, it is just a bit too big for my hand, I can barely reach to the edge of the thumb button on the right side of it while having my fingers on the buttons and stick at the back. Very Or, if you're not scared of repairing a few wires somewhere down the road, you could also try for a Saitek/Logitech X-55 or X-56 throttle? If you want a new unit, you're probably out of luck at the moment in that your only real options are the Thrustmaster TWCS and I guess the CH Pro Throttle (if you can even find either in stock). +1 for the TWCS Throttle. I ran CH Pro throttle w Thrustmaster T1600M. Welcome to /r/hoggit, a noob-friendly community for fans of high-fidelity combat Another throttle with paddles (T. I have a TWCS for throttle right now, I fly in il2 and find it difficult to manage the engine simply because it's not a dual throttle. EDIT: I personally have a X52 pro and a G940, the G940 has better build quility, but the x52 pro throttle has simply way better ergonomics imo. The T16000M has both left and right grip adapters. TM TWCS HOTAS throttle mods/upgrades question . A lot of people like the Thrustmaster TWCS as well, but I've always preferred the feel/layout of the CH throttle. While it's currently out of use because I fly dual stick right now, I think that I would prefer to maintain that linear feel if I upgrade to this device The TWCS throttle is, however, pretty much the only choice you have within your budget range. Also, check WINWING. The only non-trimming slider on it has a small amount of jitter. Hello, I'm looking at the above 3 pedals to replace my currently ailing CH Pro Pedals. I'd buy Extreme 3d pro joystick+TWCS throttle and later upgrade the joystick. If you wanted to add a throttle like the Thrustmaster TWCS, you could, although prices of the TWCS and availability are somewhat spotty right now. 16000M with the TWCS throttle. After market upgrades (ADU Labs slider, CoreHawk3D slider, Nyogel dampening grease) can completely remedy that, but will set you back another $/€ 25,- to $/€ 45,- The general concensus is that the TWCS is a good throttle for the money so long as it works. The X56 throttle is not a fine piece of precision engineering, it's not much above toy level. The CH Pro throttle has a totaly different slide mechanism and has pros and cons vs. Posted by u/jag0009 - 2 votes and 6 comments Thrustmaster TWCS THROTTLE pro PC, černá. Having detents, either via a slotted gate, Adding a CH Pro Throttle to a 3D Pro joystick makes the best possible combination for a HOTAS for Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, by far. HOTAS TWCS (Link to Currys UK £89. Trims on the hat switch. Price : the combo is really cheap 115€ for VKB in EU shipping cost include +80€ for the TWCS. However, I am also attracted to winwing's orion2. The stick wasn't smooth and the throttle switches were extremely stiff. If you're not using VR, head tracking systems (such as Track IR or a Delan Clip) are game changers. TM TWCS 16000 - cheap and cheerful with quite a lot of functions for the money. M. I would also stay away from all things Saitek/Logitech, but that's just me. Aaaaah first world problems, eh?! Reply reply Conversely, the TWCS throttle has more inputs on its grip vs the X52 (Pro) throttle (26 vs 21), but it has a less smooth throttle action out of the box. Get a TWCS at a decent price (lol gl) or a used CH Pro Throttle. X52 stick WILL fail on you, and is of terrible quality. I just upgraded to a TWCS throttle last week. I have the CH Pro Throttle and the Virpil CM3 (last November I quit waiting for the TECS, and the grip model shown on the VKB forum doesn't seem to offer much to me, in comparison to the CH throttle, apart from being dual), and I use them both. CH throttle is one of the contenders (though at that price I’d buy new) - other main options would be TWCS (seems to the default choice) or wait for VKB TECS. Worked well but makes a mess and eventually you need to redo it. Not using the Pro Throttle as I like my TWCS more, anyway I had a warthog stick before that I sold to a friend because he was flying more than me so for the interim I used an Extreme 3D. Pros : Quality : TWCS + Gladiator are miles above in terms of feeling and quality than X52Pro. The stick isn't as "accurate" as I remember (it's been a while, it's been sitting on a shelf, along with the other bits,) and the other day I plugged the throttle in, went to calibrate it in CH Manager, and it was jumping all over the place. The TWCS is a budget throttle but then so is the X56 throttle really. TL;DR: Throttle suggestion around €200 as replacement of the TWCS. Since your detent is at 30% you need to split the throttle into a 0-30% axis and a 31-100% axis. The T16000M joystick also doesn't have many hat switches or buttons on the grip, due to it being a symmetrical stick that can be freely reconfigured between left- and right CH Products Combat-/Fighterstick & Pro Throttle: Virtual Fly Throttle TQ6+/Neo: Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant: VKB Black Mamba: Logitech G940: VKB Gladiator/NXT/EVO: Logitech/Saitek X52/Pro: VKB GNX THQ Throttle: Logitech/Saitek X55/X56: VKB Gunfighter MK1/MK2/MK3/MK4: MOZA AB9 FFB: VKB STECS Thrustmaster TWCS: Dimensions T-Flight HOTAS line has a yaw thing on the throttle as well, but the throttle cannot be used separately. Posted by u/spyhermit - 4 votes and 8 comments I am using TWCS. The X56 throttle uses more power than some motherboards can supply which results in ghosting Get the bundle unless you have your eye on a stick in which case, just get the throttle. It's pretty okay. The logitech extreme 3d pro in conjunction with a thrustmaster TWCS. I would like say you cannot go wrong with WINWING, but I can only attest to the products I own. 16000, X52, X56, Gladiator NXT) Use a throttle ministick (CH Pro Throttle, TWCS, perhaps VKB TECS if/when it releases) Rudder pedals If you want to go more premium there’s TM Warthog and VIRPIL CM2 throttles (and Winwing), and the high end VIRPIL and VKB sticks. Not the absolute cheapest, but the best in terms of the quality and usability you get compared to the price you pay. I kept seeing advice like "why buy a crap stick when you can buy a Gladiator NXT for not too much more" and "a TWCS is a decent budget throttle to pair with it", so I crept up from a HOTAS 4 to X52, Then to Gladiator + TWCS, and now to this combo, costing $430. And then there's the Thrustmaster Warthog throttle, Warthog throttle is too "A-10" specific, will give a improvement over TWCS in matter of switches/buttons/HAT numbers, but have a less usable "slew" than TWCS mini-stick and their extra axis slider is located in inconvenient place - on base at right of throttle grips, comparatively to the easy to operated analog rotary under finger in TWCS. I won’t get into how truly great the CH Pro Throttle is here, but suffice it to say, there is none better for Elite. The Pro Slider offers ultra-smooth and precise gliding with polymer bearings, free from unnecessary complications. Thrustmaster TWCS is sliding too. It's got one more usable digital input than the TWCS but 2 fewer axes. I use one now and it's brilliant (just be sure to loosen up the little screw underneath that adjusts the throttle track friction). Basing on these three, i can say that sliding has an advantage. I would say they're the same price, but the Pro Throttle seems to be marked up noticeably higher than the TWCS as of late. Cougar, Warthog, T-50 (v2), T-50CM (v3), TWCS, CH Pro Throttle, F-16 TQS, WCS Mk II Both Virpil and VKB are excellent products, I have Virpil throttle, VKB MCG PRO and VKB Ruder. The TWCS throttle, thanks to its “low” position, enables seamless and precise actions under the hand and at the fingertips. Virpil WarBRD pedals or VKB T-Rudders if you just want the rudder axis and don't need toe brakes. 99) TCA Quadrant Add-On Airbus Edition ($109. So i've been doing some research into the new setup that should be arriving today - TM 16000m TWCS stick and throttle. So I need to pick a throttle now. Throttles. I have the fighterstick which is a close replica of the F16 stick, and the ch rudder pedals. Depends on your definition of "budget friendly", but in my opinion the VKB Gladiator NXT ($150) and Thrustmaster TWCS ($120) or CH Pro Throttle ($140) are the best value. CH Products Fighterstick + Throttle vs Thrustmaster Warthog + Viper stick? Question I'm just barely getting back into flight sims and am currently enjoying IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad and some DLC (I fly Allied, P51). The main advantage of the CH Pro Throttle is reliability, but people also like the analog thumb stick for space sims You won’t regret it. It's simple but very ergonomic. No strange noise, no weird wires inside, no buttons stopping to work for whatever reasons. For this price I'd say the X56 throttle is worth the risk. I don't want to take hands off the throttle at any time. The CH Pro Throttle also uses potentiometers and the same A2D converter as the joysticks, and it doesn't have quite as many controls on it as, for example, the TM TWCS (which is also a reasonably decent throttle when cheaply and easily Gladiator NXT and TWCS Throttle; thinking about picking up one of those VKB throttles tho Reply reply HOTAS 3: Virpil WarBRD with T-50CM Grip, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Pedals. A Little monies - CH Pro Throttle or Thrustmaster TWCS Medium Monies - Winwing Orion 2 Big Monies - Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Reply reply Blatherman069 • TWCS vs CH Products upvotes The TWCS comes very close to being a perfect replacement in terms of inputs. The mod seems to be as bullet proof as Ch throttle vs TWCS for DCS/A10c and F18 . I think the reason why it gets a good rep generally is that the combo of TWCS and TM. Well, it's not quite the only standalone throttle below $200. the TWCS. There's been a used 3d pro I've been eyeing that's about $50aud and I've found a pretty nice deal on the TWCS, around $115aud I'd be able to snag that for, totalling $165aud for the entire setup. Nyogel 767a works miracles with the feel of the throttle travel and one's ability to fine tune the throttle control, but it is hard to find and expensive. Vertical Profile: 270mm: Right now your main options within that budget are the Thrustmaster TWCS or the CH Pro Throttle. You can make due with the small throttle on the VKB NXT and a modifier button until you save enough for a throttle (TWCS or CH Pro Throttle). Gear up/down, tailwheel, canopy on the left three buttons eject, flaps and engine start as expected CH Rudder Pedals, CH Pro Throttle and CH Throttle Quadrant. Since the TWCS throttle is nearly sold out everywhere I wonder what a good alternative for it would be. They're about the same price as a TWCS, but you can sometimes find a great deal on a used one. I've used both and both are fine, I just like the TWCS slightly better. After market upgrades (ADU Labs slider, CoreHawk3D slider, Nyogel dampening grease) can completely remedy that, but will set you back another $/€ 25,- to $/€ 45,- I actually run both a TWCS and a Gladiator Omni-throttle*. The TWCS throttle or CH Pro Throttle are both decent options, as is the X52 HOTAS, though whilst the stick is *better* it's still not what I would call *good*. My advice would be if you are going into it knowing that you already like flight sims and will put a ton of hours in the gladiator is your best bet for the stick and the TWCS is a pretty decent place to start for a while anyway and Pro Slider for Thrustmaster TWCS – Optimize your flight experience with this high-quality TWCS mod. The general recommendation seems to be "get a TWCS for $70". The two controllers together open up the full universe of true 6DOF HOTAS gameplay. The CH throttle particularly shines in VR because all of the buttons are right on the throttle and easy to access. Perfect friction, no jumping and super smooth. I love my WINWING Orion 2 FA 18 throttle, I got it last year around September. I managed to get my hands on a Gladiator NXT so I'm looking for a throttle now. The general concensus is that the TWCS is a good throttle for the money so long as it works. Then save up for either TM TWCS, CH Pro Throttle or VKB TECs when released. Yesterday night I posted about how my TWCS throttle input was "flickering" around, and some people pointed me out to opening it up and applying contact cleaner into the potentiometer and I was even directed towards this very helpful tutorial and after a trip to the shop to buy the thing and then applying it to my HOTAS, the issue was fixed! The CH pro throttle movement is plastic on plastic with no grease or similar added to make it "feel" more like a real throttle. The CH Pro Throttle has 24 inputs 4 hats (16 inputs) 3 buttons (3 inputs) 1 analog ministick with push (5 inputs) The Thrustmaster TWCS has 26 inputs 3 hats (12 inputs) Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle (my first, used heavily in Elite Dangerous) Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Winwing Orion Thottle (with F/A-18C handle) Summarizing my experiences and preferences as brief as possible: Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle. II Joystick. fighters (MiG-21, etc. I would've recommended the CH Pro Throttle for an entry-level throttle, but it seems pretty hard to find these days at a non-ludicrous price - at least in Europe. T technology: unique system of slide rails for perfectly smooth throttle sliding motion – precise and comfortable, with 3. So that leaves us with: 1. I have the CH pro throttle and fighterstick. Not sure what one to get but the price of a new TWCS is cheaper than a CH throttle if that helps. I need everything on the throttle handle (like CH does). I also find that when leaving the weight of your hand on the throttle it really doesn't slide much when re-greased. Doubt you'll get that lucky but still far better than x56 floppy cock stick. I am flying helo with CH Pro stick and TWCS throttle. Reply reply The TWCS (Thrustmaster Weapon Control System) throttle is the new component of the Thrustmaster flightsim ecosystem. In short, XO12 comes with info for that stick. On the stick: MG on the trigger, MK on the button. Unlike the pivoting action of the TM throttle, the action The TWCS is a high-end throttle unit that can be fully customized to your needs and preferences with programmable buttons. There aren't any other options really available in my country. Discussion primarily focuses on DCS: World and BMS. The TWCS (Thrustmaster Weapon Control System) throttle is the new component of the Thrustmaster flightsim ecosystem. Otherwise, try to buy a VKB NXT and CH Pro Throttle (it doesn't feel cheap, I'm not a mega fan of the X55/X56 throttles for a couple of reasons, but the TWCS definitely has issues of its own too. CH Products Combat-/Fighterstick & Pro Throttle: Virtual Fly Throttle TQ6+/Neo: Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant: VKB Black Mamba: Logitech G940: VKB Gladiator/NXT/EVO: Logitech/Saitek X52/Pro: VKB GNX THQ Throttle: Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle: Dimensions. Thrustmaster TWCS or a CH pro throttle if you can find one cheap off of ebay/Craigslist Reply reply It honestly feels like a throttle that would cost two or three times the amount. TWCS (Link to Currys UK £89. It may lag in durability, but arguably has a more flexible set of inputs. About 150 bucks (or should be about that, be careful of price gouging right now). XP12 recognizes the throttle, but I get "No Image available". If you don't mind tinkering (and if you don't mind having to look far and wide for good second hand deals) the CH Pro throttle can easily have its potentiometer swapped, or changed for a hall effect sensor (almost all of the electronics are on the handle itself, so there's TONS of room inside the throttle base to add whatever you want) I'm undecided about what throttle to add. g. The CH Pro Throttle + a Leo Bodnar board might be a winning combination. Lav Pro? TWCS vs X52 pro throttle size . twcs, ch joystick , aviators joystick (i think it was from tm) , saytec one i think it was called ciber or something like . It needs to be recalibrated constantly, the ministick doesn't return to 0 when I let go, and the travel on the throttle is very short (so really bad for reverse and forward) despite how huge the whole thing is. 99) Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant Airbus Edition ($129. You could consider a throttle quadrant alternatively, which would be a good choice if you fly WW2 or GA aircraft. Both products are fantastic. A user review of the TWCS throttle, features, what I like, what I dont like, and most importantly would I buy it again? I have a twcs throttle on order but I doubt I’ll like it more than my keyboard. Limitations. Tento produkt je součástí řady periferních zařízení pro simulaci letu, které lze používat ve vzájemném spojení s letovou pákou FCS, škrticí klapkou TWCS, pedály kormidla TFRP a panely kokpitu I don't recall if target offers that option in the gui. I don’t think they have changed the f18 throttle, but I have heard parts of the f16 throttle have been transitioned from metal to plastic recently. 2 inch/80 mm range of travel 5 (+3) axes: 1 throttle + 2-axis mini-stick + 1 toggle rudder + 1 rotary antenna + connector for optional external 3-axis TFRP rudder (16-bit throttle axis = 65635 values / all other axes = 1024 values each) I recently purchased new Virpil WarBRD joysticks and was hoping to sell my used Thrustmaster TWCS throttle and T16000M (FCS HOTAS Set), CH Pro Pedals, and my VKB Gladiator Mk. When I set up CH Pro stick, XP12 (and XP11) in Settings > Joystick > Calibrate, I see a nice picture, etc. I have the CH Pro Throttle and honestly I can't seem to get used to it. It will run you about $150. If you don't have the cash to shell out for the virpil throttle though, the TWCS honestly is still a fantastic product after 15 minutes of modding for 1/3 the price. Anyone use Deity W. I use the TWCS for non-space-sims, and the Gladiator-Omni for Elite. CH pro throttle is a good option. R. Total of ~ £235 The VKB stick is an entry level sim enthusiast controller, which is a generally better quality product than the Logitech/Thrustmaster general consumer offerings. Flight, TWCS) A stick with twist (T. T1600m and x56 are ok but you're far better off with a VKB Gladiator (standard or premium) and a TWCS from thrust master. They all worked great, I was just hoping to upgrade / change my setup. For $260 I’d get a Gladiator NXT and save the rest for a throttle (or 2nd NXT for HOSAS). ) I don't fly civilian but I Can pair with CH PRO Throttle or TWCS and use their mini-stick, rocker pads for rudder control, but then VKB NXT standard ~$130,0o is a better option because has twist and will cost less than stick+throttle. Installed this kit (after cleaning the Nyogel mess), and set the magnet to give me a 90% detent instead of 50% recommended in the setup (90% for afterburner/mil power detent). I hated the x56 throttle and the ch pro throttle due to bad ergonomics. operate switch to deploy cargo hatch, you now need to operate that switch off and then on again to retract the hatch - same with other Next level up is the VKB gunfighter, Virpil, or winwig. I got the CH Pro Throttle + VKB Gladiator and the Thrustmaster FCS at the same time. Conversely, the TWCS throttle has more inputs on its grip vs the X52 (Pro) throttle (26 vs 21), but it has a less smooth throttle action out of the box. I also thought it would be a nice alternative to a collective (for helicopters, since it's a rocking throttle, not a slider. CH is still making them. After market upgrades (ADU Labs slider, CoreHawk3D slider, Nyogel dampening grease) can completely remedy that, but will set you back another $/€ 25,- to $/€ 45,- You could do something like buy the Thrustmaster T16000M joystick and TWCS throttle combo pack for less than $200 USD, but Thrustmaster's product durability and customer service are substandard. Currently there's no mid market really good generally DCS friendly throttle out there. Depending on how well-kept the CH kit is, $70 is an okay price for a CH Flightstick and CH Pro Throttle. If you want modern and currently 100% fully supported (hardware AND software), you're not getting one for cheap. With respect to "stepping stones to the warthog": while I love the visual design of the warthog throttle, I see usability problems at least for the games I play. Your best bet is to get the VKB Gladiator NXT and use the throttle on the base. • Pro Throttle • Throttle Quadrant • Pro Pedals . I would NOT recommend a cheapo stick for squadrons as it will make aiming much more difficult. What makes the TWCS especially cool is that it’s Update - I have had this mod for over 2 years on my CH Products Pro Throttle with no noticeable negative difference in the performance. More posts you may like r/hotas. Nyogel 767A is the best for this kind of thing, but it's a bit pricy. Reply reply CH Pro Throttle is the only other stand alone throttle comparable to the TWCS. I'd love it to be ~$100 Edit: I was able to do a preorder for the TWCS throttle at a Dutch store for a reasonable price so I went with that. But then I remembered about the Omni throttle that is only £200 and would not need upgrading really unless I buy Virpil one for £400 in a year or two. Easy to service if anything acts up (I replaced a pot last year for about $10). CH Products Combat-/Fighterstick & Pro Throttle: Virtual Fly Throttle TQ6+/Neo: Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant: VKB Black Mamba: Logitech G940: VKB Gladiator/NXT/EVO: Logitech/Saitek X52/Pro: VKB GNX THQ Throttle: The TWCS throttle (that complements the T16000M stick) is better than the HOTAS X throttle, with many more buttons (in the form of hat switches), some of which are less accessible than those on the HOTAS X which all fall very easily under your fingers. The TWCS throttle has a myriad of buttons, switches, paddles--I use throttle axis for the collective, paddles for rudder/yaw, a wheel for zoom and 4-way switch for look These are industrial-grade products and reflect that fact. Together they have enough buttons that you don't need the 16000m base TWCS throttle S. I'm just going to discuss CH and leave the TM vs CH discussion to Ergonomic left handed jet styled slide throttle with 3 axis, 4 buttons, three 4-way hat switches and one 8-way hat switch for a total of 112 programmable functions (with Control Manager The Pro is almost identical to the regular throttle. zlrsqxi gjv wjg ihgxk evjbv rwxs baafahm kaarww cnrszqz wing